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It’s All Greek To Me

Posted by oyebilly on May 9, 2008

When I was young, a mere мальчики, I became very fascinated with Russian and decided I wanted to learn it. The fact that I wasn’t a человек with an aptitude for languages didn’t matter: there was a book about how to learn Russian in my house, and it had a cool picture on the front (maybe it was a матрёшка) and they were the second most significant country in the world - I already knew English.

I think part of my fascination was the Cyrillic script. This looked like the letters I was used to, only different. Some were the same but had different sounds, some looked like the were mirror images or upside-down and some looked completely different. It was completely безумный, truth be told. Other languages had more exotic looking letters, but I couldn’t fathom those out at all.

Although I never learned Russian properly, even now I don’t know a single слово, I did at one point know all the pronouciations of the letters, which meant I could write people’s names, for example, in Russian.

Many years later, a similar experience happened to me in respect of the Greek alphabet. Learning all kinds of odd mathematical uses for the Greek letters I rediscovered my fascination: once again some were the same but sounded different, some looked different and some didn’t look like anything I’d ever seen before.

There was one difference though, the letters were always referred to by their names: theta, nu, sigma, delta, pi etc. I didn’t know how you pronouced the letters at all.

So I went to the library, found a Greek dictionary and wrote them all out, pausing briefly to consider whether to bother with the obsolete letters as well. You know, just for a laugh. But I didn’t.

I went further than I did with the Russian and for a time, riddled with paranoia, I wrote in my notebook in Greek letters so if anyone found it, they’d need a Greek dictionary and a lot of time to work out what I’d said. And hopefully they’d think it was in actual Greek, rather than a reverse Greeklish and my secrets would be safe.

12 Responses to “It’s All Greek To Me”

  1. Tim Footman Says:

    You’re mental.

  2. rockmother Says:

    Oh you bonkers weirdo - that’s so funny. I can read and write Greek fluently but oddly despite pronouncing it perfectly I can’t understand two thirds of what I can read. Sometimes people Greek people can speak to me and although I understand what they are saying I can not reply and have to say “I am so sorry, I do not understand” in perfectly spoken Greek which has given me a few funny looks once or twice. I lived in Greece as a child for a year and learned to speak it by ear and later taught myself to read.

  3. MJ Says:

    I studied Russian for 3 years simply because I had always wanted to decipher the Cyrillic alphabet.

    I got to the point where I could read, write and hold a basic conversation but I’ve forgotten most of what I learned.

    Now for excitement, I like to read the Latin botanical names of plants and flowers.

    I’m a real hoot at parties, as you can imagine.

    zzzzzzzzz.

  4. BiB Says:

    You’re not a безумный мальчик at all. And you do know some слова. You’ve even written them. I’ve got a feeling my fascination with Russia and Russian may have started out like yours. Fun letters. Empire of evil. And then I had to try to make my interest decent, so pretended for however long I was some kind of nascent communist.

    I don’t know if there’s a thing called Russlish but it certainly exists. I had a text message exchange yesterday - all about war and the heroic Soviets, it being May 9th - with my (sort of) brother-in-law and that was Russlish galore. But what’s your view on how best to convey the soft sign?

  5. patroclus Says:

    Ooh, me too, I did a bit of Russian at school and still feel ridiculously smug and pleased with myself whenever I manage to (painfully slowly) decipher something written in Cyrillic script.

    But to BiB’s point, it always seemed to me that once you *had* deciphered the script, half of the Russian words turned out to be English words anyway. And is there any truth to the rumour that the Russian ‘vacsal’ (station) is so-called because of Vauxhall station in London?

  6. oyebilly Says:

    Tim - Very probably.

    RoMo - That is very cool. Being absorbed in a language is probably the best way.

    MJ - I could never speak it, I just liked writing the funny letters. Latin names are good, especially the binomial ones.

    BiB - I had to look up the spellings, but as long as they made sense I’m happy. I remember the soft sign - I’d probably just ignore it for Russlish.

    Patroclus - Slow transliteration is very satisifying.

  7. BiB Says:

    Pats, it’s true, it’s true! Can’t remember the whole truth, but the urban myth version of it that I’ve invented for myself is that for some important Russian or other - probably a tsar - Vauxhall was the first station he ever visited. He liked it so much he bought the word. Wikipedia says, though, that the word entered Russian earlier and because of Vauxhall’s famous pleasure gardens.

  8. Llewtrah Says:

    I learned how to write my own name and some friends’ names in Russian. I have some Russian cat magazines and its fun to work out the breednames - same name, different orthography.

  9. oyebilly Says:

    BiB - I wish it were true, but fear it isn’t.

    Llewtrah - I remember impressing people at school with my ability to do the same. It was always made hard with my name because of the ‘w’.

  10. rivergirlie Says:

    one of my books was translated into bulgarian recently - it looks vair vair funny

  11. oyebilly Says:

    That’s brilliant! Is Bulgarian in Cyrillic?

  12. rivergirlie Says:

    da

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